Curse

muddog · Aug 12, 2006, 01:13 AM // 01:13

After farming Ghial for a few days I realized that walking past orosen was such a waste but I couldn't get the hang of killing him with this build. I tried several builds, including Mo\W using skull crack to daze Orosen - it sort of worked, but it didn't really work since it took forever to even take off 1/4 health. I also tried Mo\R with concussion shot and choking gas with little success. I eventually went back to Mo\Me and figured out that Sympathetic Visage would work (only to find out later and have my pride crushed that someone had already used Visage in this build - props to Avarre). The only problem was that the duration fell short of the recharge time, but fortunately Sympathetic Visage has a clone in Factions; Ancestor's Visage. Problem solved.

Skills:
Protective Spirit
Mantra of Resolve
Sympathetic Visage
Ancestor's Visage
Illusionary Weaponry [E]
Watchful Spirit
Mending
Balthazar's Spirit

Notes on Skills:
- Protective Spirit is your lifeline, always keep it on.
- Mantra of Resolve will come in handy at the beginning when you are first casting the Visages and IW. Sometimes you won't even use it since there are no mesmers near Orosen.
- Watchful Spirit and Mending give you enough health regen to keep you alive if you kill yourself before starting your battle. Once you get a morale boost and your health increases, these enchantments can usually keep you alive if you are taking 3 damage per hit, depending on amount of enemies and types of enemies.
- You can probably get away with using one Visage, and replace it with healing breeze so you don't have to kill yourself, but I haven't tried that yet.

Attributes:
Illusion Magic: 12
Inspiration Magic: 10
Healing: 5 + 3 -> 8
Smiting: 0 + 3 -> 3
Protection: 1 + 3 + 6 -> 10
Divine Favor: 3 + 3 -> 6

Notes on Attributes:
- Max out Illusion magic so you can get the longest possible duration for Visages and max damage for IW
- Healing at 8 will give you +3 health regen from mending, adding that to the +2 from Watchful Spirit, you get +5 health regen
- Divine favor really isn't needed, but sometimes it comes in handy so you can heal yourself with Protective Spirit after you get a morale boost and your health increases past what Watchful Spirit and Mending can heal.

Equipment:
- Runes: Sup. Healing x2, Sup. Divine Favor, Sup. Smiting, Sup. Protection Prayers
- Armor: whatever lets you farm in style

For the weapons, this is what I use:
Weapon Slot 3:
- Vampiric Sickle Of Enchanting: 6-28, Damage +19% (while health below 50%), life stealing: 3, health regen: -1, enchantments last 20% longer
- Grim Cesta (the -50 health one)

Weapon Slot 2:
- Halo Axe of Enchanting: 6-23. damage +15% (while health below 50%), enchantments last 20% longer
- Grim Cesta (the -50 health one)

Weapon Slot 1:
- Halo Axe of Enchanting: 6-23. damage +15% (while health below 50%), enchantments last 20% longer
- Divine Symbol (the -20 health one)

Requirements for the Run:
- Orosen must have at least one Jade Brotherhood Knight accompanying him
- You must bunch up the casters as much as possible such that when you are attacking Orosen, all other casters (or at least the ritualists) are close enough so that the visages affect them. If the mesmers are not affected, don't worry, you can use mantra of resolve to keep your enchants up without being interrupted.

The Run:
If you have weapons that give you health degen, just equip that weapon along with the -50 cesta and die. While your health is decreasing, you can go check and see if Orosen has any Knights accompanying him (do this without drawing him). If he doesn't, rezone and try again. Right when you resurrect, equip your non degen weapon along with the -20 cesta. After, cast Watchful Spirit, wait for energy to recharge, then cast Mending, wait to recharge, then cast Balthazar's Spirit. Go draw Orosen. Once he starts running towards you, activate Mantra of Resolve, then Prot Spirit. Make sure to activate Prot Spirit before he gets in your aggro range or he will cast Channeled Strike and kill you. Once you have Mantra and Prot Spirit active, move around as necessary so that all the casters are close enough to be in range of Visages (Nearby). Be careful not to get herded and surrounded before you get close enough to Orosen to attack. If you do get surrounded, try activating one of the visages, then IW, then kill whoever is blocking your path, then proceed to kill Orosen. Once you are attacking Orosen and the knights are attacking you, all you have to do is keep Visage active by casting one when the other one is going to expire. As always you should be making sure Prot Spirit isn't about to expire, if it is, simply recast. You should keep Mantra active since mesmers can still use Signet of Disruption. Recast Prot Spirit, IW, Mantra, and Visages as necessary. He will die eventually and when this happens your health will increase. If you have killed enough such that Watchful Spirit and Mending can't heal you effectively anymore (usually happens at 40 or more health) switch to your non degen weapon and -50 cesta. This should bring you to under 20 health. See the video if something isn't clear and to make sure my instructions are correct.

Notes on the Run:
- If you don't have degen weapons, just take the left fork and let the vermins kill you.
- It may be possible to farm both Orosen and Ghial in the same run (haven't tried yet)

Video:
Orosen Farm Run

As of this writing, I have only killed him a few times, with no staff drops, but maybe you will have better luck! Happy farming!

Ecksor · Aug 12, 2006, 02:17 AM // 02:17

you can also use sliver armor to kill him.

muddog · Aug 12, 2006, 02:24 AM // 02:24

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Originally Posted by Ecksor

you can also use sliver armor to kill him.

you are quite correct! gonna go try it. thanks.

Crush · Sep 09, 2006, 07:27 PM // 19:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ecksor

you can also use sliver armor to kill him.

I don't get it: how can you kill him with only silver armor? I tried several times but while silver armor is recharging he heals himself and bye bye

just tried this build and it works good, it's just that you need some time to get him down ... ^^

muddog · Sep 11, 2006, 12:24 AM // 00:24

sliver armour works, its just takes longer i found. it takes several applications to nail him.

on another note, i found that swapping out mantra of resolve for ignorance and watchful spirit for blessed aura (and transferring points from inspiration to domination) lets me farm sskai fairly easily and quickly. kudos to the people who made the various sskai farming threads - i would have never thought of using ignorance, since i hadn't even heard of the skill before farming sskai

Former Ruling · Sep 14, 2006, 07:56 AM // 07:56

Sliver Armor killing Orosen is subject to his Spawn and it takes awhile/is risky. This is because he doesn't always have alot of knights with him, and his group can be quite small - Sliver armor requires you to aggro big groups to activate it enough.

As for the posted build...Can't Watchful just be taken out for Healing Breeze...then you dont have to worry about health pips being enough...or am I missing a use for watchful?

muddog · Sep 17, 2006, 03:49 PM // 15:49

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Originally Posted by Former Ruling

As for the posted build...Can't Watchful just be taken out for Healing Breeze...then you dont have to worry about health pips being enough...or am I missing a use for watchful?

i remember thinking about that, and i think the reasons i chose not to use healing breeze are:

energy: casting IW, ancestor's/symp visage, prot spirit, mantra of resolve and healing breeze uses lots of energy (never actually tried to see if balthazars spirit provides enough energy for casting all of the above, this is all just stuff i thought of without testing)
possible interrupts: there would be the odd run where i positioned myself to make ancestor's/symp visage drain the ritualists, but the mesmers where just out of range. if you rely on healing breeze, you leave yourself wide open to interrupts. having healing breeze interrupted = possible death.
laziness: why cast healing breeze every so often when i can have an enchantment to keep me alive without worrying about casting, energy costs, and interrupts?

on an entirely different note, i got my first staff from orosen a few days ago

Kushiels_Scion · Oct 01, 2006, 08:05 AM // 08:05

THIS REALLY DOES WORK WITH IW I just got the drop WOOT!!! took forever and if there is more than one mesmer impossible. I kill the mesmer first then maybe a mage then move on to Orosen. this time i just bothered with the mesmer then started whailing on orosen. well picture wont upload.

Phane · Oct 01, 2006, 09:02 PM // 21:02

Sliver Armor does Work easily. I use ele/mo with 16 earth. All you have to do is aggro orosens group and the group at the bridge. only 1 sliver armor should be enough to kill him!

Mo/e too shouldnt be a problem. Maybe 2 sliver armor with the 2 groups. Its the same build for farming ghial. Good luck!

muddog · Oct 01, 2006, 09:12 PM // 21:12

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Originally Posted by Kushiels_Scion

THIS REALLY DOES WORK WITH IW I just got the drop WOOT!!! took forever and if there is more than one mesmer impossible. I kill the mesmer first then maybe a mage then move on to Orosen. this time i just bothered with the mesmer then started whailing on orosen. well picture wont upload.

there can be all mesmers, one knight and orosen in the group, and it is still possible to do the run, you just have to bunch up the casters in the range of sympathetic/ancestor' visage.

schmoky · Oct 22, 2006, 01:03 PM // 13:03

i would pick spirit bond and no watchfull ... so... and a 15def armor
Skills:
Protective Spirit
Mantra of Resolve
Sympathetic Visage
Ancestor's Visage
Illusionary Weaponry [E]
spirit bond
Mending
Balthazar's Spirit

or maybe so

Skills:
Protective Spirit
Mantra of Resolve
Sympathetic Visage
Ancestor's Visage
Illusionary Weaponry [E]
Watchful Spirit
spiritbond
Balthazar's Spirit

or so ...

Skills:
Protective Spirit
Mantra of Resolve
Sympathetic Visage
Ancestor's Visage
Illusionary Weaponry [E]
essence bond
spirit bond
Balthazar's Spirit

or so...

Protective Spirit
Mantra of Resolve
Sympathetic Visage
Ancestor's Visage
Illusionary Weaponry [E]
blessed aura
spirit bond
Balthazar's Spirit

edit: i had test it ... it didnt work xDDD sorry:/

but it works with 55hp ...
port spirit
healing breeze
illusionary weapon
sympathic visage
abcestor's visage
mantra of reasolve
balthazar spirit
mending

att:
healing:9
port:9
illusion:12
divine favore: 12
inspiration : 3

king_robin · Oct 22, 2006, 07:32 PM // 19:32

Or you just do like this:
Prot sprit
Spirit bond
Glyth of concenteration
Sliver armor
burning speed (KILLING YOURSELF)
Watchful spirit
Balts spirit
Mending

8 heal
12 earth magic
rest prot spirit

You can kill both Orosen and Ghiail (someone like that, you know the necro boss that all ppl farm?) Try it.
Note: 13 hp build
when you killed orosen switch FAST to -50 offhand and you will have 16 hp then ^^. Then go off kill (the necro guy boss). GL HF

godsie · Nov 24, 2006, 10:12 AM // 10:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by muddog

sliver armour works, its just takes longer i found. it takes several applications to nail him.

on another note, i found that swapping out mantra of resolve for ignorance and watchful spirit for blessed aura (and transferring points from inspiration to domination) lets me farm sskai fairly easily and quickly. kudos to the people who made the various sskai farming threads - i would have never thought of using ignorance, since i hadn't even heard of the skill before farming sskai

I have been trying his build for a while with sskai without too much success I start well and get sskai down to about half health but then seem to get prot spirit interrupted or a second naga party comes along and overwhelms me, any help?